colonel anthony shaffer his book operation dark heart spy craft and special ops on the frontlines of afghanistan and the path to victory was the target of a censorship attempt by the kind of gone after they tried to buy up all ten thousand copies before approving the censored version he is currently a senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studies and slogan is innovation for peace tony thanks so much for being with us driving back adam all right so with this in context for us please the u.s. cyber command been around for a couple years now with hacking heating up accusations with china being involved what is the significance of the u.s. cyber command in the overall department offense that picture why i think that's part of the problem it's not significant by the fact that they're they're playing catch up what we're doing now and i think it's significant that if we're talking about three zero what happened to one do they not exist well they didn't get it and that's part of the problem that we're talking about today were issues we dealt with back in the ninety's and what is ironic here